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Thursday, February 8, 2007

Ships Passing

Last weekend brought two items together to give a fascinating insight
into Sydney Diocese.

In my parish bulletin there was a promotion for Lord Peter's address
at Abbotsleigh Girls School (for those not in Sydney, this
prestigious school is part of the Anglican campaign to remove
Christians from the general community, and pander to the wealthy who
like to impress themselves). The topic was "Why I am Protestant,
Reformed and Evangelical". Great. Bring to the 21st Century the
concerns of the 16th!

In the Sydney Morning Herald Spectrum section, I noticed that
Dawkins' "The God Delusion" is a top selling book.

What this says to me is that Lord Peter has missed the point about
what is at issue in the contemporary religious scene; therefore he is
not evangelical. I will leave my doubts about his being reformed or
protestant to another time.

Found a review of Dawkins' The God Delusion at:

http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/4900

6 comments:

John said...

Eric,

That attitude is systemic in the diocese. Far too many think evolution isn't an [salvation] issue. I'm sure these guys must walk around with MP3 players going full belt or they are all Stevie Wonders.

These guys are so blind that they actually think that God could use evolution, if he wanted to because...wait for it..God can do anything, and because "I have no problems with God doing it."

I read a rather interesting piece in The Australian this week in which George Pell said that people's thinking today is subjective, inductive and experiential, rather than objective, deductive and...ahhh, for the life of me, I can't remember his third category. Anyway, my point is that his negative appraisal of people's thinking process is exactly how the Sydney Diocese is on the issue of origins.

John

Ktisophilos said...

Hardly surprising that they miss the point about Dawkins. One of those Anglocompromisers, Owen Atkins, actually praises the scientifically and ethically discredited Ian Plimer, Australian Humanist of the Year (www.creationontheweb.com/plimer).

Yet he whinged about CMI's Peter Sparrow speaking at his church. Interesting priorities, these Anglocompromisers -- prefering a Bible mocker to a Bible defender. Good on his pastor for sticking to his guns and keeping Mr Sparrow rather than appeasing his resident Plimer fan.

Tim said...

I would have loved to have seen how academically and theologically "sound" Owen was at the meeting. Owen, a man who prefers a lying atheist as his buttress Vs Peter, a guy I've never met, but who I understand has given all his time to the Lord.

Tim

Ktisophilos said...

Apparently, from his own comments, Owen didn't bother to go, but whinged from the sidelines. These guys never want to go face to face with informed creationists.

Similarly his hero Ian "I'm a professor" Plimer, the Australian Humanist of the Year, was very brave when the ABC gave him a free platform and denied any opposition, but now that creationists can splatter his nonsense on the Internet, he has gone to ground (e.g. http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/2280, good for a laugh at Plimer's asinity, e.g. "The aeroplane was not formed by chance; it evolved" as a serious argument against a designer of life LOL).

Ktisophilos said...

On the Anglocompromise site today, Owen is still gullibly trusting the God-haters:

"I reckon if there is truth in the accusations made on talk origins, in Plimer's book and in the other URLs I have noted then there are systematic untruths promulgated by the YECSers."

Then he spruiketh:

'Look at the YECS stuff. They play word games to edge their arguement forth. My special favourite is "Evolution" is "just a theory" and then, they state that their "theory" has equal status.'

Yet CMI has advised against the very statement he's whinging about (http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/2996/#just_theory). This is yet more proof that he attacks creationists without even bothering to read what they say, and instead relies on proven liars and God-haters like Plimer.

Michael Rees-Evans also nails Owen Atkins as the enemy of the Bible that he is, for Owen hath said:

"...and I like this site!"

Yet this site states as one of its key beliefs:

"The Bible is the greatest book ever written. It contains the writings of great men of God who were largely inspired by Him. However, like any other document, it is not absolutely perfect, and in some places it is badly flawed."

Come on Moorites: set Owen right and go some way to proving that Moore still accepts biblical authority.

hankinson said...

Ktisophilos,

I recently read on 'Your Sydney Anglican' site that the bishop of South Sydney, Robert Forsyth, has openly declared that the Bible is not inerrant. Me thinks you'll be waiting a mighty long time for your request to be responded to.

Hankinson