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Friday, August 24, 2007

On systems

I was taken by this quote from an old book by von Bertalanffy:

Even if complex molecules like nucleoproteins and enzymes are considered as being ‘given’, there is no known principle of physics and chemistry which, in reactions at random, would favor their ‘survival’ against their decay; rather this is contrary to the second law of thermodynamics according to which a ‘soup’ containing proteins, nucleoproteins, enzymes, etc., would tend to chemical equilibrium, that is, breakdown of ‘improbable’ proteins, etc, into ‘probable’ simple compounds (as happens after the death of any living system). Selection, i.e. favored survival of ‘better’ precursors of life, already presupposes self-maintaining, complex, open systems which may complete; therefore selection cannot account for the origin of such systems.

L. von Bertalanffy, Robots, Men and Minds (New York: Braziller 1967, p 82.)

2 comments:

John said...

I guess this is where we and the Sydney Anglo heretics are able to agree: that abiogenesis is not a result of stochastic chemical processes.

But where we separate from each other is that far too many of these people believe that science has proved biological evolution a fact and so large slabs of the Bible have to be reinterpreted to make room for this pagan view of origins.

"Coincidentally", ol' John Shelby Spong also believes this to be true except he extends this philosophical presumption to, inter alia, the virgin births, physical resurrections etc.

Again, this mindset is also found in Sydney South's great Bishop Bobbie Forsyth who believes that other miracles, like the parting of the Red Sea, can be explained by a reductionist set of values.

I've heard it said that Bobbie also doesn't believe in the virgin birth.

sam drucker said...

I am informed that one Klaus Dose reporting on the evolutionary conference held by the 'International Society for the Study of the Origin of Life' in Mainz, Germany in 1983 said "The Mainz report may have an equally important historical impact, because for the first time it has been determined unequivocally by a large number of scientists that all evolutionary theses that living systems developed from poly-nucleotides which originated spontaneously, are devoid of any empirical base."

If only the alleged 'know it all' Sydney Episopalians would look into the science rather than timidly acquiesce to the prophets of the pagan god Darwin then they would better represent the Lord Jesus Christ. They ought also just get out of the way of those who uphold the Word of God!

Sam Drucker