tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7649826198961930411.post7290056679692599846..comments2023-11-02T22:17:59.419+11:00Comments on Sydney Anglican Heretics: Time and GenesisErichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04827951993182450846noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7649826198961930411.post-50379521438504445782008-01-15T11:22:00.000+11:002008-01-15T11:22:00.000+11:00I would suggest that all the creation myths (inclu...I would suggest that all the creation myths (including evolution!) not only presuppose a cosmos, but they rely on the fallen cosmos. Only Genesis stands above them by setting out creation from nothing, and delineating the fall, giving us the result we now experieince.<BR/><BR/>The theological (or contra-positively, the counter atheological) implications of this would be a worthy topic to explore. Any comments?Watcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15539376763780007608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7649826198961930411.post-5724489786606769952008-01-15T09:53:00.000+11:002008-01-15T09:53:00.000+11:00Re-done comment that I deleted (too many typos!! g...Re-done comment that I deleted (too many typos!! grr)<BR/><BR/>I should enlarge, that Simpson's comments on Genesis (he being the contributor to the Interpreter's Bible edition I quoted) diverge from von Rad's in that Simpson sees a reflection of ANE origin myths, where von Rad does not. I think I read in that a rather uncritical 'religious evolution' program on Simpson's behalf.<BR/><BR/>Going further, and contrary to Simpson, I think one could identify in Evolution’s basic story resemblances to pagan origins tales. The striking resemblance is that destruction and death is the engine of development, whether it is the angry gods or the death of the unfit. This alignment between the two pagan manifestations sets them in stark contrast to the loving action of God who creates, and makes (separating out in a precise manner: lapidary, as von Rad puts it) to produce the garden: a place of peace and delight.<BR/><BR/>I think the contrast between the real world coming from the hand of God (and therefore being ultimately personal) and it coming from 'material' or angry gods could not be more dramatic.<BR/><BR/>Another thing I see in all pagan tales is that they are conceptualised within an existing cosmos, at some level. Of all origins texts, it is only the Genesis account that deals with the origin per se. Even the 'big bang' theory must nominally conceptualise a cosmos of sorts to host the 'bang', else it comes mystically from nothing. And they say we are clutching at straws!!Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827951993182450846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7649826198961930411.post-46110603398385334422008-01-15T08:52:00.000+11:002008-01-15T08:52:00.000+11:00Thanks for the link. Others may be interested in a...Thanks for the link. Others may be interested in a more 'generic' <A HREF="http://www.sacred-texts.com/ane/index.htm" REL="nofollow">site on ANE myths</A>.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827951993182450846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7649826198961930411.post-1001704007717778382008-01-15T08:45:00.000+11:002008-01-15T08:45:00.000+11:00You may be interested in this essay: on Genesis a...You may be interested in this essay: on <A HREF="http://www.ancientdays.net/creationstories.htm" REL="nofollow">Genesis and Creation Myths</A>.Watcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15539376763780007608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7649826198961930411.post-7731523958772909142008-01-15T08:31:00.000+11:002008-01-15T08:31:00.000+11:00This comment has been removed by the author.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827951993182450846noreply@blogger.com